Thank you for the add, Neil & Diane here. First time Jeep owners long time mini owners. Have only been in wisconsin for 6 years now and had realized the mini convertible didn't go that good in the snow and the wife wanted to have another convertible and figured the Jeep wrangler jl with a soft top would be the best fit for up here considering we lived in florida for over 30 years. Am looking forward as to how it does though so come on snow. Also really like the thousands of way a jeep can be personalized so this will be fun and looking forward to learning from someone else's mistakes.